lol

Nesta is still upset about old shit. Guess someone harbors a grudge? Yeah I know the only point of this is to instigate him but I can't help trolling him about it.

What did I miss now?

NSA
That's what you missed if you haven't heard of it. Basically, the National Security Agency has access to your phone calls and has been allowed to spy on everyone in the United States. Companies such as Verizon and AT&T are involved as they are the ones giving the NSA access to phone calls. 
So to sum it all up, freedom my ass.

Kisser wrote:NSA
That's what you missed if you haven't heard of it. Basically, the National Security Agency has access to your phone calls and has been allowed to spy on everyone in the United States. Companies such as Verizon and AT&T are involved as they are the ones giving the NSA access to phone calls. 
So to sum it all up, freedom my ass.

That's fucking retarded. Go Nesta! Kill the USA haha

Yeah it is fucking retarded. It all starts like this, soon enough they'll have cameras in our homes.

Kisser wrote:NSA
That's what you missed if you haven't heard of it. Basically, the National Security Agency has access to your phone calls and has been allowed to spy on everyone in the United States. Companies such as Verizon and AT&T are involved as they are the ones giving the NSA access to phone calls. 
So to sum it all up, freedom my ass.

Wow lol, now that really sucks

Only the people with something to hide cared about this. If you're doing shady shit it shouldn't be done on the phone in the first place, that's just common sense.. This is how we prevent attacks in our own country.

Bato wrote:

Kisser wrote:NSA
That's what you missed if you haven't heard of it. Basically, the National Security Agency has access to your phone calls and has been allowed to spy on everyone in the United States. Companies such as Verizon and AT&T are involved as they are the ones giving the NSA access to phone calls. 
So to sum it all up, freedom my ass.

That's fucking retarded. Go Nesta! Kill the USA haha

Do you really wanna start with me too bato?

To me whats happening in the USA is no big news. There's plenty of fucked up shit that's is going on in the government that we don't know anything about.

Also brace yourselves there's plenty more coming our way.

Sporadic wrote:

Bato wrote:

Kisser wrote:NSA
That's what you missed if you haven't heard of it. Basically, the National Security Agency has access to your phone calls and has been allowed to spy on everyone in the United States. Companies such as Verizon and AT&T are involved as they are the ones giving the NSA access to phone calls. 
So to sum it all up, freedom my ass.

That's fucking retarded. Go Nesta! Kill the USA haha

Do you really wanna start with me too bato?

I was kidding -.-

MvRaM wrote:To me whats happening in the USA is no big news. There's plenty of fucked up shit that's is going on in the government that we don't know anything about.

Also brace yourselves there's plenty more coming our way.

Fucked up shit happens in every government. It's the spying on your own people that I hate. I don't care what else the government does as long as I'm safe and happy.

Spying on other people makes you safe. Like I said, its only the people with something to hide that are getting upset. Go ahead and read my text message records, it won't change anything for me.

I can understand both sides in this. People want freedom and stuff, but on the other hand, how Spor explained it, it is a better way to intercept attacks if they are planned through phone. So it also makes people safer.

Bato wrote:I can understand both sides in this. People want freedom and stuff, but on the other hand, how Spor explained it, it is a better way to intercept attacks if they are planned through phone. So it also makes people safer.

I understand what Spor saids. But what good does that to us when things like the Boston Marathon bombing still occur. I don't have anything to hide so that doesn't affect me the least, but if they have been spying us for so long why are things still happening. To me the system doesn't seem to work.

Probably cuz the marathon bombing wasn't planned by phone. Then it doesn't work indeed.

I asked spor a question. I wanted to know if he still thinks USA is such a great country.

NSA is not stopping any terrorist attacks. They're spying on you to control you. Even if you have nothing to hide you should be worried. Do you really want someone to have this kind of power?


Do you really want such a lying fuck to lead your country? What else is he lying about?


If they could not stop the Boston bombing, why would they even need this?

I personally I think wouldn't care  I wonder who would be interested from government to my random shit

This is fucking bullshit. How can you not care? How do you not see that the US government is trying to control the world?

Btw if you want safety just go to prison. You will be more safe than ever, they will even give you food and healthcare and clothes. You guys don't need freedom anyways, right?

Rather ''lying'' Obama than a faggot like Bush who wages war against terrorists for his own fun.

And not much would change for me if America controls the world since Holland sucks up to them already anyway. The only change might be that we finally start talking english evrywhere, which is a good thing imo.

Obama kills innocent arabs too, just without declaring war. Dont know why you say "lying", everything he says is a lie.


About your 2nd point, your country and every other too, needs to do what Iceland did. Put bankers in prison and kick fbi out of their country. They are recovering very fast and are probably one of the best countries to live in right now.

Mordrag wrote:Obama kills innocent arabs too, just without declaring war. Dont know why you say "lying", everything he says is a lie.


About your 2nd point, your country and every other too, needs to do what Iceland did. Put bankers in prison and kick fbi out of their country. They are recovering very fast and are probably one of the best countries to live in right now.

When did he kill innocent arabs then? If it was anything serious i probably would have heard.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drone_attacks_in_Pakistan#Statistics

http://www.policymic.com/articles/24164/a-list-of-children-killed-by-drone-strikes-in-pakistan-and-yemen

http://yemendrones.newamerica.net/

This were just first few results I got. Google it to find more.

Mordrag wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drone_attacks_in_Pakistan#Statistics

http://www.policymic.com/articles/24164/a-list-of-children-killed-by-drone-strikes-in-pakistan-and-yemen

http://yemendrones.newamerica.net/

This were just first few results I got. Google it to find more.

You're saying this like he is doing this on purpose. They are in a warzone, this stuff happens. As sad as it is. He's not some barbarian or something.

What the fuck bato? They're not even in war, yet he sends drones and kills innocent kids. You see nothing wrong?

NOW PLEASE READ THIS...
(copy pasted from reddit):




Thanks Obama!

Obama extends Patriot Act without reform - [1]

http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011-05-27/news/29610822_1_terrorist-groups-law-enforcement-secret-intelligence-surveillance

Signs NDAA 2011 (and 2012, and 2013) - [2]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/01/02/president-obama-signed-the-national-defense-authorization-act-now-what/

Appeals the Federal Court decision that “indefinite detention” is unconstitutional - [3]

http://www.activistpost.com/2013/02/ndaa-hedges-v-obama-did-bill-of-rights.html

Double-taps a 16-year-old American-born US citizen living in Yemen, weeks after the boy's father was killed. Administration's rationale? He "should have [had] a far more responsible father" - [4]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/anwar-al-awlakis-family-speaks-out-against-his-sons-deaths/2011/10/17/gIQA8kFssL_story.html

Continues to approve drone strikes that kill thousands of innocent civilians including women and children in Pakistan, Yemen, and other countries that do not want the US intervening; meanwhile, according to the Brookings Institute's Daniel Byman, we are killing 10 civilians for every one mid- to high- level Al Qaeda/Taliban operative. This is particularly disturbing, since now any military-aged male in a strike zone is now officially considered an enemy combatant - [5]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/pakistan/7361630/One-in-three-killed-by-US-drones-in-Pakistan-is-a-civilian-report-claims.html

Protects Bush’s war crimes as State Secrets - [6] [7] [8]

http://www.salon.com/2010/09/08/obama_138/

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/04/obama-doj-worse-than-bush

http://washingtonindependent.com/33985/in-torture-cases-obama-toes-bush-line

Waives sections of a law meant to prevent the recruitment of child soldiers in Africa in order to deepen military relationship with countries that have poor human rights records -[9]

http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2010/10/26/why_is_obama_easing_restrictions_on_child_soldiers

Appoints Monsanto, GMO company with multiple unsafe practice violations, lobbyist to head the FDA - [10]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/blogpost/post/monsanto-petition-tells-obama-cease-fda-ties-to-monsanto/2012/01/30/gIQAA9dZcQ_blog.html

DOJ raids marijuana dispensaries that are now legal pursuant state law - [11]

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=685_1342311527

Obama protects AG Holder from Congressional “Fast and Furious” gun walking investigations - [12]

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/06/white-house-invokes-executive-privilege-on-fast-and-furious-documents/

Brings no criminal charges against bank executives that misused bailouts - [13]

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/26/opinion/sunday/no-crime-no-punishment.html

Engages in a war on whistleblowers - [14]

http://dailycaller.com/2012/07/31/the-obama-administrations-war-on-whistleblowers/

Grants immunity to CIA torturers - [15]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/aug/31/obama-justice-department-immunity-bush-cia-torturer

Quadruples Bush's warrantless wiretapping program - [16]

http://www.aclu.org/blog/national-security-technology-and-liberty/new-justice-department-documents-show-huge-increase

Allows innocent man to die at gitmo - [17]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/suzanne-nossel/the-death-of-guantanamo_b_1878375.html

Increases Drug War budget - [18]

http://www.whitehouse.gov/ondcp/the-national-drug-control-budget-fy-2013-funding-highlights

Supports intrusive TSA pat-downs and body scans - [19]

http://www.cnn.com/2010/TRAVEL/11/20/obama.tsa/index.html

Says it’s legal to track individuals by pinpointing their cellphone without warrant - [20]

http://www.businessinsider.com/government-says-its-to-track-cell-phones-2012-10

Renews FISA and NSA’s unregulated spying and banking of all wireless communication - [21] [22]

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/01/us/01nsa.html

http://www.democracynow.org/2012/4/20/whistleblower_the_nsa_is_lying_us

Appeals SCOTUS ruling that warrantless installation of tracking devices on cars is unconstitutional - [23]

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/item/11591-obama-admin-argues-no-warrant-required-for-gps-tracking-of-citizens

DOJ overzealously prosecutes [read: persecutes] activist Aaron Swartz, ultimately leading to his suicide in the face of trumped-up charges brought forth to silence his movement for open information - [24]

http://rt.com/usa/secret-service-accused-of-misconduct-in-aaron-swartz-case-020/

Obama nominates JP Morgan defense lawyer to head the SEC, the regulatory agency in charge of keeping Wall Street in line - [25]

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/choice-of-mary-jo-white-to-head-sec-puts-fox-in-charge-of-hen-house-20130125

Picks Goldman Sachs partner Bruce Heyman—who, along with his wife, raised $1 million for Obama—as an ambassador to Canada - [26]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/story/2013/04/03/pol-us-ambassador-to-canada-obama.html