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I'm just happy all questions will be answered, I don't care how many powers Ichigo has, Bleach is still awesome to me.
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Re: Bleach Manga Discussion [Spoilers]
I'm also looking forward to they answering all the questions. But its a bit to much imo.
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Re: Bleach Manga Discussion [Spoilers]
The answers no, the other thing yes, but imo, it was expected, that was the only thing missing, and in the end it basically comes down to two basic powers, the rest are branches of those. I saw a thorough explanation somewhere, it was really good at explaining it.
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Alright 4 good hours and I read all chapters. So now I am caught up. When is the nest chapter getting published? And even tho I was spoiled about this arc, it was still surprising.
Also, I agree with Mv, that this was too much... everything is complicating, but lets wait and see how it will turn out.
Also, I agree with Mv, that this was too much... everything is complicating, but lets wait and see how it will turn out.
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Ovyda wrote:Alright 4 good hours and I read all chapters. So now I am caught up. When is the nest chapter getting published? And even tho I was spoiled about this arc, it was still surprising.
Also, I agree with Mv, that this was too much... everything is complicating, but lets wait and see how it will turn out.
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Ovyda wrote:Alright 4 good hours and I read all chapters. So now I am caught up. When is the nest chapter getting published? And even tho I was spoiled about this arc, it was still surprising.
Also, I agree with Mv, that this was too much... everything is complicating, but lets wait and see how it will turn out.
Damn you Now your ahead of me again I will either catch up today or tomorrow. So how you like manga?
edit: remember that shinigami i told you about, the 1 whos always with Yamamoto? Well now u know what happened to him. Tbh i was actually really suprised about him dying so easily. Usually in Bleach the shinigami get injured big time and then recover in some kinda way.
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It was easy to catch up Well be glad that I didn't say what I knew about this arc because I would have spoiled you big time
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Re: Bleach Manga Discussion [Spoilers]
So I think we can use this thread for Bleach manga, therefore I changed its title. Sorry Kisser
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Re: Bleach Manga Discussion [Spoilers]
Actually it's better now.
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Re: Bleach Manga Discussion [Spoilers]
And im now fully caught up to Bleach for the 1st time in my life!!!
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- I agree totally with Kisser. It all got too much for a second, with all the information about Ichigo's mom and that guy saying ''my son'' to Ichigo???????????? Yamamoto dying, Byakuya and Kenpachi being alive but ''most likely'' not being able to be captain and might not wake up.. If Kenpachi doesnt wake up i will rage >.<
But either way, i think its still awesome.
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I was the one that said that bato. Also how do you like reading manga now? Have you changed your thinking of reading manga now?
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MvRaM wrote:I was the one that said that bato. Also how do you like reading manga now? Have you changed your thinking of reading manga now?
I haven't It sucks imo! But since I really wanted to know what's happening... Anyway, to read manga after seeing the show it's fine, but I couldn't read it w/o having seen the show before... So many things and pictures are unclear to me. But it's good that they don't prolong as they do in anime and you get all explanations and fights sooner.
Still anime is a lot better thing
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MvRaM wrote:I was the one that said that bato. Also how do you like reading manga now? Have you changed your thinking of reading manga now?
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Well I thought it was awesome, I know it's too much, Ichigo is just too much at this point, over the top, but that's it, he's done now.
I agreed with Kisser agreeing on you thats its too much. But thats it. I just agreed to Kissers full post. Evry word he said was exactly what i thought. Except for Ichigo and Ishida being cousins. I wasnt that far with thinking yet
@your question, i like to read manga now and i feel stupid for judging it without trying, but i still think anime is 100 times better. Like Ovyda, i would never start a manga series. I have to have seen it in anime first and when its unfinished i pick up in the manga. For me theres also alot of things i cant understand just looking at those pictures. But if its the only way i can keep watching a good series then i dont complain.
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Is it really necessary to use spoiler tags? Now that everybody's caught up I don't think we have to use them. I'll use em now but I'd like to hear your opinion.
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- Well the Quincy part was to be expected in my opinion, sure it took a lot of us by surprise, but it does explains quite a few things AND a some people had called it waaaaay before. For example Ichigo's ability to regenerate reiatsu at above average speed, a quincy technique by absorbing the reishi around them, it explains the sudden burts of energy, well besides that he has monster reiatsu but at times when he was almost dead and suddenly reemerged there was no explanation for that. Also back then when he barely became a shinigami through Rukia and he was doing the competition with Uryuu and he combined his powers with Uryuu's bow to create huge arrows and defeat the Menos Grande, that shouldn't had happened if Ichigo was only shinigami, because their reiatsu's weren't even compatible. It has been shown before that shinigamis and quincies have different reiatsus, but Ichigo also had quincy powers, even if they were dormant at the time, at the core of his power there were his quincy roots, like Bach said in 514 when talking about when he absorbed the reiatsu around him in the sphere and also got some quincy reiatsu which awakened his.
All right now moving on, about Byakuya and Kenpachi. I AM SERIOUSLY ENRAGED THAT BYAKUYA DIDN'T DIE. Seriously wtf, building up all my feels and all that for nothing? Fuck that shit where they might not even wake up, we know Kubo, they WILL. Don't get me wrong I love Byakuya(no homo) but come on.....
Kenpachi I am happy that he's alive, I knew he couldn't die, he's KENPACHI!
Me personally I love this arc, finally we get a force strong enough to defy Soul Society and rape them in the ass, and many secrets will be revealed, I've been waiting a long time for this. Isshin's past especially, hopefully we get a mini sub-arc like back then during the Aizen war.
Also this whole arc has me thinking, what if Soul Society WERE the bad guys. Think about it, they've done a bunch of fucked up shit. There's poverty in soul society, their system is not even that great(someone dies they might not even meet their dead relatives). Fuck even Aizen, what did Aizen do really? Did he kill anyone but Gin? To me all he ultimately wanted was to bring down the Soul King, whom he called a monster, and Urahara called "it". Now who is this "Soul King" and what's his purpose, why is he a monster and why is he at the top of soul society. And this hidden ultimate force called the Zero Squad, who are they and what do they do? It all sounds pretty fishy to me. They also slaughtered thousands of Quincies, Uryuu's grandpa remember that? Kurotsuchi killing thousands of souls(even if it was to maintain balance) remember that? Them sacrificing Rukia with absolutly NO hesitation remember that? Just because 46 old fuckers on a hidden basement said so wtf is up with that shit? Just before the whole Rukia situation they were the bad guys now why did that stop? Because of Aizen's actions(who obviously planned that was well) Ichigo suddenly became friends with shinigamis and blah blah blah everybody's happy. Not saying shinigamis are evil, I understand sometimes drastic measures have to be taken, and we're talking about a thousand+ year old system, but still.... Again what's most fishy to me is the whole Soul King(a monster) thing. So yeah, think about that and be psychologically prepared for what might come.
Also what we know so far. Ichigo's mom was obviously a quincy. Based on Bach's statement in 514(My son born in the darkness) Ichigo and him might be related, maybe he's his grandfather or something. The major theory going around is that Isshin and Masaki were sort of an unforbidden love(sort of like Romeo and Juliet hehe) so Isshin decided to leave soul society. Based on his strength and his ability to be able to keep up with Aizen better than anyone we can infer that he's damn strong, possibly part of the Zero Squad. Also there's another theory going around, which I think might be possible. And that theory is that Isshin is actually a Shiba, thus his resemblance to Gaju not only on appearance but personality, and also Ichigo's resemblance to Kaien, which was kinda weird right? There's still many flaws I guess we'll find out as this arc develops but yeah, I'm pretty excited.
I'm a fan of this arc, I'm actually enjoying it quite a lot and hope they animate it later
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About that guy calling Ichigo his son, imo its either that Isshin is not Ichigo's real father but that guy is and that Ichigo is actually a full Quincy. He was able to become a shinigami just because he possessed spiritual power and the rest was given to him by Rukia. Quincy also have spiritual power.
My other guess is that that guy is like Makarov in Fairy Tail. He is the leader of the Quincy and its possible that he calls all Quincy his children, like Makarov does with FT members.
If that 2nd is true then the Quincy is surely a better community than Soul Society. But their methods of completely destroying a soul to kill a hollow, while that soul can actually be saved, is totally wrong.
You can compare Bleach to an old Japanese samurai story. (the swords, the clothes, all the things in Soul Society resemble that) And in those worlds all these horrible and brutal things also happened. They also have that Samurai proud. Look at Byakuya and Kenpachi But imo that wouldnt mean they are the bad guys. Didnt Soul Society ask the Quincy to live in peace? The Quincy refused if im right and thats what started the 1000 year war.
And Kisser, its obviously who is the Soul King.. It has been obvious for so long now.
My other guess is that that guy is like Makarov in Fairy Tail. He is the leader of the Quincy and its possible that he calls all Quincy his children, like Makarov does with FT members.
If that 2nd is true then the Quincy is surely a better community than Soul Society. But their methods of completely destroying a soul to kill a hollow, while that soul can actually be saved, is totally wrong.
You can compare Bleach to an old Japanese samurai story. (the swords, the clothes, all the things in Soul Society resemble that) And in those worlds all these horrible and brutal things also happened. They also have that Samurai proud. Look at Byakuya and Kenpachi But imo that wouldnt mean they are the bad guys. Didnt Soul Society ask the Quincy to live in peace? The Quincy refused if im right and thats what started the 1000 year war.
And Kisser, its obviously who is the Soul King.. It has been obvious for so long now.
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And also i'd like to add that because they were already giving hints for Ichigo being a Quincy and all through Aizen, that is the reason why they couldnt finish the anime after Aizen was defeated. They still had alot of explaining to do, even tho people werent completely aware of that at the time.
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Nah, we don't need spoiler things anymore.
So... To start with, I have never thought of Isshin being a Shiba Of course, it is a possibility, but I doubt that somehow... Secondly, it's interesting what you say about Zero Squad and Isshin being as one of them, sounds good and possible. Looking forward to know more about Ichigo's father as well! Thirdly, I have totally forgotten about that Soul King(it) LOL! Now this really got my interest ;o Who could that person be, if that's a person and why everyone is scared of him o.0 Moreover, I keep wondering if Aizen was really a bad guy, as they show him good, then bad and in the end he might be good. It's like with Gin happened. What do you think? Why else Bach would want to join up with Aizen? Both knows something about that Spirit King thing and they want to destroy it, therefore they have the same aim. Last but not least, could it be that Urahara was inventing that Hogyoku to defeat Spirit King? I think everything that Urahara is doing has a purpose. It's not he wants to invent something new, but he was looking for a method/weapon to defeat Spirit King.
Also, is it just me and Bato wondering why Bach said "my son"? And do you think Ishida knows something that he didn't go with them to Hueco Mundo? And still... one of the biggest question in my head is HOW ARE ICHIGO'S AND ISHIDO'S DAD'S RELATED? Friends, enemies, comrades...? Or Ishida's father is a brother of Ichigo's mom? ahhh
So... To start with, I have never thought of Isshin being a Shiba Of course, it is a possibility, but I doubt that somehow... Secondly, it's interesting what you say about Zero Squad and Isshin being as one of them, sounds good and possible. Looking forward to know more about Ichigo's father as well! Thirdly, I have totally forgotten about that Soul King(it) LOL! Now this really got my interest ;o Who could that person be, if that's a person and why everyone is scared of him o.0 Moreover, I keep wondering if Aizen was really a bad guy, as they show him good, then bad and in the end he might be good. It's like with Gin happened. What do you think? Why else Bach would want to join up with Aizen? Both knows something about that Spirit King thing and they want to destroy it, therefore they have the same aim. Last but not least, could it be that Urahara was inventing that Hogyoku to defeat Spirit King? I think everything that Urahara is doing has a purpose. It's not he wants to invent something new, but he was looking for a method/weapon to defeat Spirit King.
Also, is it just me and Bato wondering why Bach said "my son"? And do you think Ishida knows something that he didn't go with them to Hueco Mundo? And still... one of the biggest question in my head is HOW ARE ICHIGO'S AND ISHIDO'S DAD'S RELATED? Friends, enemies, comrades...? Or Ishida's father is a brother of Ichigo's mom? ahhh
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Bato wrote:About that guy calling Ichigo his son, imo its either that Isshin is not Ichigo's real father but that guy is and that Ichigo is actually a full Quincy. He was able to become a shinigami just because he possessed spiritual power and the rest was given to him by Rukia. Quincy also have spiritual power.
My other guess is that that guy is like Makarov in Fairy Tail. He is the leader of the Quincy and its possible that he calls all Quincy his children, like Makarov does with FT members.
If that 2nd is true then the Quincy is surely a better community than Soul Society. But their methods of completely destroying a soul to kill a hollow, while that soul can actually be saved, is totally wrong.
You can compare Bleach to an old Japanese samurai story. (the swords, the clothes, all the things in Soul Society resemble that) And in those worlds all these horrible and brutal things also happened. They also have that Samurai proud. Look at Byakuya and Kenpachi But imo that wouldnt mean they are the bad guys. Didnt Soul Society ask the Quincy to live in peace? The Quincy refused if im right and thats what started the 1000 year war.
Yeah Juha acting like Makarov makes sense, it's like Ichigo's a quincy and he's the quincy king thus making him his child sort of.
Isshin is definitely Ichigo's father, because if not Ichigo wouldn't have his Shinigami powers and also don't forget about their zanpakutos lol. Zengetsu and Engetsu, and both have the same techniques. Ichigo obviously inherited that from his father lol. Also holy fuck I keep thinking about Isshin and he's strong as fuck too, holy shit, he just recovered his powers and he's not even as strong as he used too, he's STILL recovering. And he could still keep up with Aizen better than anyone! Seriously Ichigo's dad is a BEAST!
And LOL AT BROOK THE SOUL KING!
Also I do understand that about Quincies using wrong techniques to destroy hollows and disrupt the balance, you're right on that. I'm thinking perhaps now that they can use shinigami's bankais they can use that and send the souls to soul society instead? Idk but that still wouldn't matter at this point.
Also Juha Bach, I am considering the possibility that he was a shinigami, he knew Yamamoto from a thousand years ago... no human can live that long....
And ALSO about quincy abilities! Didn't you find it weird that some of them had different abilities other than the basic abilities shown by Ishida, like the two twins who could copy other people? That's like a fullbring, remember when they said that fullbring and quincy powers had the same origin? Boom another reason why Ichigo was able to become a fullbringer as well! And also Quincies with fullbring powers! That's awesome!
Ovyda wrote:Nah, we don't need spoiler things anymore.
So... To start with, I have never thought of Isshin being a Shiba Of course, it is a possibility, but I doubt that somehow... Secondly, it's interesting what you say about Zero Squad and Isshin being as one of them, sounds good and possible. Looking forward to know more about Ichigo's father as well! Thirdly, I have totally forgotten about that Soul King(it) LOL! Now this really got my interest ;o Who could that person be, if that's a person and why everyone is scared of him o.0 Moreover, I keep wondering if Aizen was really a bad guy, as they show him good, then bad and in the end he might be good. It's like with Gin happened. What do you think? Why else Bach would want to join up with Aizen? Both knows something about that Spirit King thing and they want to destroy it, therefore they have the same aim. Last but not least, could it be that Urahara was inventing that Hogyoku to defeat Spirit King? I think everything that Urahara is doing has a purpose. It's not he wants to invent something new, but he was looking for a method/weapon to defeat Spirit King.
Also, is it just me and Bato wondering why Bach said "my son"? And do you think Ishida knows something that he didn't go with them to Hueco Mundo? And still... one of the biggest question in my head is HOW ARE ICHIGO'S AND ISHIDO'S DAD'S RELATED? Friends, enemies, comrades...? Or Ishida's father is a brother of Ichigo's mom? ahhh
Nah I'm beginning to doubt Ishida and Ichigo being cousins, I was just excited at that thought back then lol, if they are I'm not even mad though. And well, Isshin and Ishida's dead knowing each other, well if Masaki isn't Ishidad's aunt then idk but I think they would've still known each other nonetheless.
And also seriously dude! The Shiba clan and Isshin! How can you doubt it! It's so obvious to me, it's one of my favorite possibilities! Too much resemblance between them! And also Masaki Kurosaki, Isshin Kurosaki, obviously those are NOT their real names! If they escaped soul society they prob had to remain hidden so they changed names? Idk but I REEEEEALLY think Isshin is a Shiba!
Uhmmmhmm, Urahara....
Yes, why would he have created the Hogyoku in the first place? The guy's a genius, comparable to Aizen, obviously he had some sort of plan. Also when he was fighting Aizen, I felt like Urahara actually felt sorry for him, like he understood what he was doing. And when they talked about the Soul King and Urahara mentioned the Soul King as "it", that expression was something else. And Urahara refuses to go back to Soul Society even now that they accept them back. That is fishy indeed. Urahara knows a lot of secrets, I think he's the one who knows the most, and the guy seems to be always there at the right time with the right information.
ALSO SOMETHING THAT I FORGOT TO MENTION!!!!
WHO THE FUCK IS THE MYSTERY SWORD!! WHY WAS URAHARA SO SURPRISED?!?!?
THAT'S KILLING MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
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Yeah they still havent shown that ;D I wonder too, at the time it happened i told myself it must be an Arrancar.
Anyways, the things you said about Urahara, that is probably why he is my favorite character in the whole Bleach series. If they'd ask him why he doesnt go to Soul Society he will just say that he has a candy store to look after now But then later the real reason gets revealed and your like WOW O.O
This guy just IS Bleach. It feels like evrything that happened in Bleach all comes back to Urahara eventually.
Anyways, the things you said about Urahara, that is probably why he is my favorite character in the whole Bleach series. If they'd ask him why he doesnt go to Soul Society he will just say that he has a candy store to look after now But then later the real reason gets revealed and your like WOW O.O
This guy just IS Bleach. It feels like evrything that happened in Bleach all comes back to Urahara eventually.
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Haha ok I want to ask a question to all of you. Who's your favorite bleach character. Well we know yours now Bato.
Ok I had to think a little bit, but.....
DAMN THIS WAS HARD!!!
KENPACHI!! ZARAKI KENPACHI IS MY FAVORITE CHARACTER!
Ok I'll add 3 more because I have to mention them lol
2. Kyoraku! His swords are too sexy. I love his personality, chill and strong. And his Bankai, mysterious!
3. Ulquiorra! Come on, this guy was so amazing, I'm sad that he died, I would have liked to see more of him.
4. Urahara! Who doesn't like Urahara
Yep, those are my top favorite characters. Tough decision really.
Also here something for you guys that you probably haven't seen. You'll like it. This is OC by Kubo btw. This guy made it into a video and added color to some parts.
Ok I had to think a little bit, but.....
DAMN THIS WAS HARD!!!
KENPACHI!! ZARAKI KENPACHI IS MY FAVORITE CHARACTER!
Ok I'll add 3 more because I have to mention them lol
2. Kyoraku! His swords are too sexy. I love his personality, chill and strong. And his Bankai, mysterious!
3. Ulquiorra! Come on, this guy was so amazing, I'm sad that he died, I would have liked to see more of him.
4. Urahara! Who doesn't like Urahara
Yep, those are my top favorite characters. Tough decision really.
Also here something for you guys that you probably haven't seen. You'll like it. This is OC by Kubo btw. This guy made it into a video and added color to some parts.
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Really easy question from you. Without any doubt this would be - Ulquiorra ! 2nd one is Byakuya and 3rd Urahara I also like Yoruichi a lot
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Karin would be my favorite female character. We haven't seen much of her but I've always liked her. Yorouichi too.
Lol also don't forget Unohana, she's scary...
Lol also don't forget Unohana, she's scary...
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And the worst female char without any doubt Inoue, annoying...
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She has big tits so. Whatever.
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Re: Bleach Manga Discussion [Spoilers]
Ovyda just has something against her She really doesnt bother me.
Anyways my favorite of the whole show is Urahara and Kenpachi a close 2nd.
But we could also do like this:
Favorite human: Ichigo / Sado
Favorite captain: Kenpachi
Favorite normal shinigami: Ikkaku
Favorite Arrancar: Ulquiorra
Favorite Vaizard: Kensei (although he looks kinda gay with the hair he has now after the timeskip )
Anyways my favorite of the whole show is Urahara and Kenpachi a close 2nd.
But we could also do like this:
Favorite human: Ichigo / Sado
Favorite captain: Kenpachi
Favorite normal shinigami: Ikkaku
Favorite Arrancar: Ulquiorra
Favorite Vaizard: Kensei (although he looks kinda gay with the hair he has now after the timeskip )
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